tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19899361.post1082552541690813523..comments2023-08-07T08:31:15.857+01:00Comments on pete's college blog: World Without EndPetehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04718124901471744829noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19899361.post-46784588294022532282007-10-02T10:09:00.000+01:002007-10-02T10:09:00.000+01:00Thanks Neil.Yes, 'fallen world' is a very common p...Thanks Neil.<BR/><BR/>Yes, 'fallen world' is a very common phrase among us. I suspect it's not entirely accurate if the creation itself is in view (as opposed to the world as a system/ institutionally or something like that).<BR/><BR/>David (Psalm 19) and Paul (Romans 1:19ff.) seemed to think that the creation still speaks of God the way it is supposed to do.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718124901471744829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19899361.post-27851481001693488642007-10-02T09:26:00.000+01:002007-10-02T09:26:00.000+01:00Last year in Eschatology we discussed whether crea...Last year in Eschatology we discussed whether creation is "fallen". It is certainly in bondage to decay, as you have pointed out. Is that the same as fallen? We often say creation is fallen.<BR/><BR/>We wondered whether creation is, in some senses, just as it was always meant to be, obedient to God, therefore not "fallen". But it is frustrated - because the man who was meant to govern it is fallen. Thus creation rebels against man in obedience to God - frustration and decay, but not fallenness?Neil Jeffershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049760329273618171noreply@blogger.com